Re: Generator solutions
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:08 pm
I have more oils than this but this is just the HDEOs that I have. I found some old API SL Castrol GTX 5W-30. And other stuff, too.
First, the Peak 15W-40 that I bought. This is an unexpected twist. It is API CJ-4, but SN. That is a very unexpected combination. If this does better on oil consumption than my Delo SDE 15W-40, which is CK-4 and SN (and I'd assume a far better oil overall), then I may only be able to conclude that the CK was, in fact, the issue, not the SN. I have at least a few more hours of use this season for leaves so I will carefully monitor oil usage as the Simplicity currently has this oil in it. Here is what I just picked up as a good winter oil for my Deutz, knowing that it will be starting up after sitting outside. It looks like a very good oil. 5W-40, CJ-4 and SM. So it will be interesting to monitor this and also see how watery it gets when hot. If it is better than the Shell Rotella T6 5W-40, which I assume is basically the exact peer to this oil, then I can also conclude that the CK-4/SN thing is still bad, at least for these engines. Here is the infamous Delo 400 SDE 15W-40 that is the evil CK-4 and SN. I experienced increased oil consumption with this in both my Simplicity and generator. When I say oil consumption, I mean that after 2.5 hours of running, the oil was halfway down the cross hatch on my generator. Sort of similar results on my Simplicity. I recall consumption was low on the older Delo 400 LE 15W-40 which was CJ-4 and SM, with both my Simplicity and generator. I do want to point out that oil consumption doesn't mean the oil isn't protecting the engine or something. But oil consumption can carbon up the combustion chamber and plug, and frankly it is a nuisance because it forces me to check it constantly. Also if I have oil consumption that is NOT caused by oil, that is helpful since it means I probably have severe engine wear. So I like to get rid of oil as the variable whenever possible, so I can know what I am dealing with. Here is the original plan for the Deutz in winter. Like I said, for how little I've used the machine I may have noticed increased consumption but that may also be a premature comment because I haven't really put any load on it. What I will say is the oil is quite watery when hot which I do not like. This is the full synthetic T6 5W-40, and is API CK-4. It is, however, not rated for gasoline engines. Makes me wonder whether it would qualify for SN or SM. I know Shell made a stink about removing SN from their oils (I posted that a few back) so this may also suggest that CK-4 is part of my issue. Then again, if it more closely resembles an SN than an SM, then that doesn't mean much just because they didn't happen to label it. Eh. And just for fun, here is a quart of my Delo 400 SAE 30. This is actually the oil that got me into these diesel oils probably 7 years ago now. I remember trying this in my push lawn mower and it cut oil consumption to like zero from the previous, I think, Castrol GTX SAE 30. Or Napa SAE 30 because...you know, lawn mowers, who cares right? Well like I said this made me start to realize there are differences. This oil is API CF which is quite old. It would have been specified for something back in the day and it probably would work great in my stuff, just not in the winter months. But what did I do with this info? I said, hey, Delo 400 is great, Delo 400 all the things! But aside from different viscosities, there is this whole API rating fiasco which really changes the playing field.
First, the Peak 15W-40 that I bought. This is an unexpected twist. It is API CJ-4, but SN. That is a very unexpected combination. If this does better on oil consumption than my Delo SDE 15W-40, which is CK-4 and SN (and I'd assume a far better oil overall), then I may only be able to conclude that the CK was, in fact, the issue, not the SN. I have at least a few more hours of use this season for leaves so I will carefully monitor oil usage as the Simplicity currently has this oil in it. Here is what I just picked up as a good winter oil for my Deutz, knowing that it will be starting up after sitting outside. It looks like a very good oil. 5W-40, CJ-4 and SM. So it will be interesting to monitor this and also see how watery it gets when hot. If it is better than the Shell Rotella T6 5W-40, which I assume is basically the exact peer to this oil, then I can also conclude that the CK-4/SN thing is still bad, at least for these engines. Here is the infamous Delo 400 SDE 15W-40 that is the evil CK-4 and SN. I experienced increased oil consumption with this in both my Simplicity and generator. When I say oil consumption, I mean that after 2.5 hours of running, the oil was halfway down the cross hatch on my generator. Sort of similar results on my Simplicity. I recall consumption was low on the older Delo 400 LE 15W-40 which was CJ-4 and SM, with both my Simplicity and generator. I do want to point out that oil consumption doesn't mean the oil isn't protecting the engine or something. But oil consumption can carbon up the combustion chamber and plug, and frankly it is a nuisance because it forces me to check it constantly. Also if I have oil consumption that is NOT caused by oil, that is helpful since it means I probably have severe engine wear. So I like to get rid of oil as the variable whenever possible, so I can know what I am dealing with. Here is the original plan for the Deutz in winter. Like I said, for how little I've used the machine I may have noticed increased consumption but that may also be a premature comment because I haven't really put any load on it. What I will say is the oil is quite watery when hot which I do not like. This is the full synthetic T6 5W-40, and is API CK-4. It is, however, not rated for gasoline engines. Makes me wonder whether it would qualify for SN or SM. I know Shell made a stink about removing SN from their oils (I posted that a few back) so this may also suggest that CK-4 is part of my issue. Then again, if it more closely resembles an SN than an SM, then that doesn't mean much just because they didn't happen to label it. Eh. And just for fun, here is a quart of my Delo 400 SAE 30. This is actually the oil that got me into these diesel oils probably 7 years ago now. I remember trying this in my push lawn mower and it cut oil consumption to like zero from the previous, I think, Castrol GTX SAE 30. Or Napa SAE 30 because...you know, lawn mowers, who cares right? Well like I said this made me start to realize there are differences. This oil is API CF which is quite old. It would have been specified for something back in the day and it probably would work great in my stuff, just not in the winter months. But what did I do with this info? I said, hey, Delo 400 is great, Delo 400 all the things! But aside from different viscosities, there is this whole API rating fiasco which really changes the playing field.