From what I could find, it looks like the Fiat thing started in 09 and finished in 14.
At least according to this: https://www.quora.com/When-did-Chrysler ... nd-to-whom
So this is a American/German car... I guess...
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That may be a clone. The tail lights have the chrome trim from the Caprice. The SS got blacked out trim. Given the age it is possible that they are not the original tail lights but my spidey sense is tingling, given the price point, too. For someone who just wants something that looks (mostly) like a real SS and should drive like one, that could be a good deal.
Has some paint issues as well.1995 chevy impala ss - $5200 (Warwick)
1995 Chevy impala ss
condition: good
cylinders: 8 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: gas
paint color: black
size: full-size
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: sedan
1995 impala ss southern car, 140K brand new interior, no mods to motor or drivetrain, has 1996 impala ss shift on the floor conversion, not perfect original paint and body panels,runs and drives excellent,$5200. IF THIS IS UP ITS STILL AVAILABLE. Call show contact info
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It’s also a 95, but has the center console like a 96.
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Ask for the SPID
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No engine pics??
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That's what I was thinking.
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1990 Black Jeep Grand Wagoneer - $35000 (Charlotte, NC)
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
condition: excellent
cylinders: 8 cylinders
drive: 4wd
fuel: gas
paint color: black
size: full-size
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: SUV
1990 Black Grand Wagoneer for sale. It has 165,708 miles. Has been converted to LS motor. It has a 5.3L with over drive transmission. Full functioning 4 wheel drive. New tires and brakes. Interior is in great condition. Power seats and windows. Has cold AC for those hot days!
Asking $35,000 or B/O
Located in Charlotte, NC
**No B/O price discussion until seen**
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wago ... sler_years
I do need to point out, and I keep forgetting, that the 360s these used were actually AMC, not Mopar.1987-1991
Chrysler bought out American Motors Corporation on 2 March 1987. At the time AMC was already working on designing a replacement for the antiquated SJ platform. Chrysler had other priorities, and although the Jeep J-Series pickups that shared the SJ platform and directly competed with Chrysler's Dodge Ram pickups were discontinued in 1988, Chrysler left the Grand Wagoneer largely untouched over its first few years overseeing Jeep production, and even continued to build the model with the carbureted AMC V8 instead of its own (arguably, more modern) fuel-injected V8. Year-to-year changes were minimal. At the time of Chrysler's purchase, customer demand for the Grand Wagoneer continued to be steady, and it was a very profitable model generating approximately five to six thousand dollars on each unit.[24]
The 1989–1991 model years are considered the "best of the breed" due to a number of upgrades. These include upgraded wood siding and modernized aluminum alloy wheels that lost their gold colored inlays in favor of gunmetal grey metallic. Chrysler also introduced an electrocoat primer for better rust proofing and all exterior colors were now applied in a two-stage base-clearcoat system. In 1988, Jeep's first full year under Chrysler, 14,117 Grand Wagoneers were produced.
Many improvements were made for the 1989–1991 model year series, including a quality replacement for the earlier, leak-prone air conditioning compressor, the addition of the visually identifiable rear wiper/washer assembly, as well as a general improvement in fit and finish. An interior overhead console, taken from Chrysler's popular minivans, was also added. This functional console featured much brighter map lights, an outside temperature sensor and compass, a storage compartment for sunglasses and an infrared remote-controlled key-less entry system.
The last three model years also featured several new exterior paint colors and the tan interior color was replaced with a lighter color that Jeep called "sand". The "new" exterior colors included the rare hunter green metallic that was only available in the 1991 model year and is the paint color of the 1991 Grand Wagoneer in the Chrysler museum, as well as the color of the very last Grand Wagoneer ever made.
Discontinuation
The Wagoneer enjoyed one of the longest production runs of any Jeep product.[25] Despite its combined fuel economy of only 11 miles per gallon[26] its powerful 5.9 liter V8 engine and high towing capacity, and the fact that unlike most competitive full-size SUVs of the era it had four doors, made the Grand Wagoneer popular among its many repeat buyers through the 1960s, 70s and 80s. By 1991, it was the longest running domestically produced vehicle (29 years) on the same platform.[5]
As a result of the 1990 oil price shock gasoline prices in the United States rose 11 percent in less than a year.[27] Sales of the gas guzzling Grand Wagoneer plummeted from over 10,000 units in 1989 to 6,449 in 1990. Slow sales continued during the Gulf War and only 1560 Grand Wagoneers were produced in the 1991 model year. In addition to its dismal fuel economy, the antiquated SJ platform would have required extensive re-engineering to comply with new Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards that would apply to all light trucks and sport utility vehicles sold in the United States by the mid 1990s. As a result, on 27 February 1991 Chrysler announced that it was ending production of the Grand Wagoneer, leaving the Jeep line without a full-size SUV.[28] Buyers of 1991 Grand Wagoneers sold after that date had the option of having a gold "Final Edition Jeep Grand Wagoneer" badge on the dashboard.[29]
The last SJ Grand Wagoneer produced rolled out of Chrysler's Toledo Assembly Plant on 21 June 1991.[30][31][32]
The 1989–1991 models years are considered "the best of the breed and still have a loyal following among a select group".[29] Later model, low mileage, rust free Grand Wagoneers are rare and have become highly collectable with some pristine examples selling for more than their original sticker price over three decades after they rolled off the assembly line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_V8_engine#360
Looks like 160hp. Is that enough for a rolling brick? It's enough to get 11 mpg combined....The AMC 360 has a displacement of 359.80 cu in (5,896.1 cc).[18] The 2-barrel produced 235 hp (175 kW; 238 PS) to 245 hp (183 kW; 248 PS) in 1970 to early 1971 while the 4-barrel produced 285 hp (213 kW; 289 PS) to 295 hp (220 kW; 299 PS), 175 hp (130 kW; 177 PS) to 220 hp (164 kW; 223 PS) from mid-1971 to 1975, 140 hp (104 kW; 142 PS) to 180 hp (134 kW; 182 PS) in 1976, 129 hp (96 kW; 131 PS) in 1977, and 160 hp (119 kW; 162 PS) from 1978 to 1991.[19]
This engine was used in the 1970 AMX as the base engine and also in the 1970 Rebel, 1971-1978 Matador, Jeep J-series trucks 1970-1987, Wagoneer (SJ) models from 1972 to 1984, Cherokee (SJ) from 1974 to 1983, as well as in the full-sized Grand Wagoneer from 1984 to 1991 - becoming the last carbureted engine used in an American-built vehicle. The 360 V8 was also installed in the Bricklin SV-1 sports car for 1974 model year.
The 360 was the last AMC V8 to be manufactured. It continued to be produced after Chrysler bought American Motors in 1987 as the standard engine in the Jeep Grand Wagoneer through 1991, with the only modification being the "360" casting replaced with "5.9L" on the side of the block.[20]
One big reason for that, I am also learning, is that it used a 3-speed auto!! Meanwhile GM just introduced the all electronic 4L80E in 1991...oy.
GM got 210hp out of their TBI 350 at the time and also had a 230hp 454 that probably wouldn't have gotten any worse fuel economy than that anemic 360.
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That 5.3L swap might pay for itself in fuel savings in the first year 