Doug DeMuro: VW Phaeton W12

[kevm14]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kIbRwNopWw&spfreload=1

I still like these. This is a proper luxury car.

[kevm14]

I do like that my only 2 year newer (and significantly cheaper) STS has a substantially more modern infotainment system.

[Bob]

Runs 14.0 @ 101, which is somewhat disappointing considering the cylinder count and complexity. It's basically on par with a new GTI.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/vo ... -road-test

[kevm14]

Well I guess the question is, what is a similar luxury car (even if it isn't quite as awesome) that is as fast or faster, for similar prices (like less than $10k)? That is really the question. It would probably be an E60 7-series. Or possibly something like an S600.

There is the STS-V but that's not really under $10k.

[Bob]

I guess this car isn't really about performance anyway. It's more of a plush touring car. I just can't help but think the performance will be decent when I hear 400+ HP and 12 cylinders.

[kevm14]

Right. But my question remains...what is there?

There is a 2005 300C I guess. That probably had performance in the same ballpark, not faster. And the car itself is light years away in terms of...everything.

I think you'll find a fairly short list of anything that can be called a luxury car under $10k (especially under $8k) that traps over 101. We should make that list.

[Bob]

E55 AMG comes to mind, though I'm not sure if you consider that a luxury car.

[kevm14]

Sure it is.

[Bob]

The fastest 4 door for 4 figures: https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/ ... 92154.html

[kevm14]

I think you are right.

And it's probably faster than the fastest 2-door you can buy for the same money.