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kevm14 wrote: None of those Mustangs you linked to were even that good for what they cost.

Since you are comparing them to the cost and performance of the '03-'04 and '07-'09 Camaro?

Maybe its cheating to compare the Ford that they made with the GM that they didn't...

Adam wrote:

kevm14 wrote: The early 2000s Cobra R with the 5.4 was famously trounced by the C5 Z06, and I think the Z06 was a bit cheaper.

I thought we were talking about Camaros.

Not when that version of the Mustang is more expensive than the highest performance Corvette you can buy that year.

Adam wrote:

kevm14 wrote: None of those Mustangs you linked to were even that good for what they cost.

Since you are comparing them to the cost and performance of the '03-'04 and '07-'09 Camaro?

Maybe its cheating to compare the Ford that they made with the GM that they didn't...

Comparing to what you can get in a Corvette, for example. Or how underwhelming the first gen of the DOHC 4.6 Cobras were compared to regular LS1s. Or that a base Corvette was as fast as the supercharged SVT Cobra of 2003-2004. At least in the latter case, the Mustang WAS cheaper than the Corvette, so those were a good deal for what you got.

Adam wrote:

kevm14 wrote: The early 2000s Cobra R with the 5.4 was famously trounced by the C5 Z06, and I think the Z06 was a bit cheaper.

I thought we were talking about Camaros.

Also, they only made the Cobra R in 2000. Which was a year before the Z06 was released.

kevm14 wrote:At least in the latter case, the Mustang WAS cheaper than the Corvette, so those were a good deal for what you got.

So my examples are 1 for 3. Not too shabby?

There was a fairly large price discrepancy in 2003
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/200 ... est-review

I could only find the 2001 article at Car and Driver. 2003 MSRP was probably similar if only a bit more expensive.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/200 ... z06-review

Adam wrote:There was a fairly large price discrepancy in 2003
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/200 ... est-review

I could only find the 2001 article at Car and Driver. 2003 MSRP was probably similar if only a bit more expensive.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/200 ... z06-review

Fail! Car and Driver is sneaky by posting the current car MSRP in the MSRP section of the old car review. Sigh.

Adam wrote:

Adam wrote:

kevm14 wrote: The early 2000s Cobra R with the 5.4 was famously trounced by the C5 Z06, and I think the Z06 was a bit cheaper.

I thought we were talking about Camaros.

Also, they only made the Cobra R in 2000. Which was a year before the Z06 was released.

Fair enough. But that one is solidly in the category of "cool if you like Mustangs." Like I said, it was MORE expensive than the 2001 Z06 and was inferior in every conceivable way.

From the article text, Cobra was ~$35K while the Corvette was just under ~$50K.

kevm14 wrote:Like I said, it was MORE expensive than the 2001 Z06 and was inferior in every conceivable way.

Unless you like no radios and huge wings.