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Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:37 am
by Bob
yeah, it is, but I have confidence they are going to drop more than the SS will over the next year. The Vsport seems to be about as hard to find as the SS in general. I wonder if the production numbers are similar.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:46 am
by kevm14
This seems to be available.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:48 am
by kevm14
Goodcarbadcar.net uses calendar years obviously, as there was no MY2013 SS.
Chevrolet SS U.S. Sales
2013: 418
2014: 2479
2015: 2895
2016: 3013
2017 YTD: 64
Anyway, you are looking at a pool of 8,869 total which isn't totally impossible but is obviously pretty rare. And not every example fits your budget. Out of however many are even for sale.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:50 am
by kevm14
Vsport:
http://www.cadillacvnet.com/knowledgeba ... umbers.php
2014 base: 834
2014 Premium: 1,661
2015 base: 283
2015 Premium: 234
Good lord. That is not good. I have no 2016 figures but it can't be good. Can't compare directly to SS (model year vs calendar, and no 2016 sales data) but pretty obviously a lot less.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:52 am
by kevm14
kevm14 wrote:Goodcarbadcar.net uses calendar years obviously, as there was no MY2013 SS.
Chevrolet SS U.S. Sales
2013: 418
2014: 2479
2015: 2895
2016: 3013
2017 YTD: 64
Anyway, you are looking at a pool of 8,869 total which isn't totally impossible but is obviously pretty rare. And not every example fits your budget. Out of however many are even for sale.
Funny. You know what the CTS-V1 production was?

8,802

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:07 pm
by kevm14
I think all things considered GM definitely does not consider the SS a flop, even in private. People just think they do. Or should.

Unfortunately, the CTS Vsport is the flop.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:18 pm
by Bob
The Vsport is actually more rare than the Elise, which is kind of crazy to think about. The SS is more common than the Elise, but not by much.

Lotus Elise US Sales by Model Year:

2005 - 3,323
2006 - 1,080
2007 - 294
2008 - 245
2009 - 107
2010 - 29
2011 - 128

All years combined: 5,206

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:57 pm
by Bob
I can think of worse options for $23k: http://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/5987167723.html

I'm not a big fan of premodded though. I mean do you really need more than 556 HP? :)

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:59 pm
by Bob
Nice ATS Premium for $21k: http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/5990984722.html I think these are off the list though due to the small back seat.

Re: Kia Rondo Replacements

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:14 pm
by kevm14
Since you have a little time, I expect a V2 test drive at some point. Maybe this one, maybe a different one.