Kia Rondo Replacements

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Bob
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Yeah, it was very under priced. Not sure how a Chevy dealer could be so out of touch on SS values.
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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... de1=CHEVSS

Decent deal on a 2014 SS in today's market. Hopefully it wasn't driven year round. Rochester and Buffalo are really bad winter places for rust.
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I would expect higher mileage if driven year round. It's been on the road for over 4 years now.
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Agreed. Since I drive relatively low mileage per year (~10k), this could continue to be a low mileage car for quite a while and probably lose very little value.
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Maybe relevant for your V-sport endeavors.

https://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/c ... n-fix.html
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So I think I've literally mentioned this before but I'll document it here:
An approach that I would favor is to buy an SS, own it for 2-3 years, enjoy it, and hopefully sell for a pretty small hit. On the off chance you like it, you continue driving it which should be pretty low friction...

But since it is possible that you may still yearn for a higher level chassis/steering type vehicle, it would make sense to upgrade into something like a V-sport at that time, when you'll have had more time to observe reliability and resale trends. And future Cadillac (or other) product.

Unfortunately, you are being asked to make a selection that sticks for something like 10 years which is a tough one. And as we know, the issue with that requirement is that it is levied on the assumption that it is the most financially responsible thing to do. Since not all cars depreciate at the same rate, and also you don't want to buy every car that is available, you can optimize for fun, practicality AND cost in a better way than this broad requirement.
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kevm14 wrote:Maybe relevant for your V-sport endeavors.

https://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/c ... n-fix.html
Looks like it specifically does apply to both the LF3 and LF4. So CTS V-sport also.
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kevm14 wrote:So I think I've literally mentioned this before but I'll document it here:
An approach that I would favor is to buy an SS, own it for 2-3 years, enjoy it, and hopefully sell for a pretty small hit. On the off chance you like it, you continue driving it which should be pretty low friction...

But since it is possible that you may still yearn for a higher level chassis/steering type vehicle, it would make sense to upgrade into something like a V-sport at that time, when you'll have had more time to observe reliability and resale trends. And future Cadillac (or other) product.

Unfortunately, you are being asked to make a selection that sticks for something like 10 years which is a tough one. And as we know, the issue with that requirement is that it is levied on the assumption that it is the most financially responsible thing to do. Since not all cars depreciate at the same rate, and also you don't want to buy every car that is available, you can optimize for fun, practicality AND cost in a better way than this broad requirement.
Yes, I am 100% in support of this approach and have tried to rationalize it. I think it is fairly realistic that I could buy an SS now and lose less than $1k a year in depreciation, even over a short ownership period. Meanwhile, it's possible the Vsports would be a lot cheaper by then or maybe they prove to be not really what I want in terms of reliability and I just stick with the SS or find something else.
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In a way I worry that the SS will quickly become outdated from a performance standpoint. But then I remember how long the 08-09 G8 GXP held its resale (and still does) at a time where there was CONTINUOUS Charger production from 2005 through present (to include SRT trims). Some people say the G8 looked better - I don't think it was that different - and being a product from a dead performance brand is an obvious cult-classic, but I think the SS is quite special, too. So that helps.
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kevm14 wrote:Some people say the G8 looked better - I don't think it was that different - and being a product from a dead performance brand is an obvious cult-classic, but I think the SS is quite special, too.
Just to footnote this and bring meaningless bickering to this thread...

VE Commodore SS V (2006-2012)
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VF Commodore SV6 (2013-2018)
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Check out those Camry SE wheels. But anyway.

2013 VF Commodore SS (this ought to look really familiar) (2013-2017)
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These cars look similar and I guess I don't believe that a front bumper and grill can turn a good looking car into an ugly one, and vice versa. The bones either work, or they don't.
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