General 96 Roadmaster thread

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kevm14
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kevm14 wrote:Here's a crazy factoid: the rear windows roll all the way down. Is that a 96 thing???? I had no idea. Pretty awesome.
Ahh. It's the little quarter windows. That makes the main window less wide so it can fit in the door when it rolls down. That must be a 92-96 RMS thing.
Look closely at the picture of RM sedan rear door and compare it to your Chevy's (and RM wagons). The secret is the little quarter window. In the quest to make doors as large as possible, the rear doors have to impinge on the rear wheel wells making the rear doors curve on the trailing edge. [It's even worse in smaller cars.] This means that a full-size rear window physically cannot go all the way down. The little quarter windows mean that the main part of the rear window can be smaller and therefore go all the way down.

The additional quarter window obviously adds costs and therefore not a good choice for the entry-level GM brand, Chevrolet. [Yes Chevy is... research all the talk about GM restructuring where they reaffirmed that strategy and just get over it.] This is why the upper brands (Cadillac and Buick) have the additional quarter window. My wife's Seville does the same quarter window trick to get a fully rolldown rear window in a smaller car. [Unfortunately, the RM wagon was likely judged too utilitarian to get the additional quarter windowm]

The additional quarter window also adds a window post which lessens the sportiness of the side view. [Take at look at almost any car since the 40's... fewer or no side posts means more sporty.] This is not a problem with the car with a more luxury oriented image.

I had always wondered if a Chevy door could "easily" retrofitted with the additional quarter window by using guts and maybe the upper door frame from and RM sedan rear door.

A final comment is that the '94-6 RM sedans are the best kept secrets. The "ugly" nose [sorry RoadMonster], huge rear pillar, Buick lineage [marketing to an older demographic], and no hint of sportiness have kept the prices down while the drivetrain is the same as the SS with much more luxury appointments inside make it the ultimate sleeper. If I didn't want/need a wagon, I would be driving one. [I had an oppurtunity to get one recently with about 60K miles for about $2K from an estate sale. It was the hardest deal to walk away from. It was snatched up shortly after I saw it.]
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Paint looks great. I think it will be hard to find anything from 1996 with original paint looking this good, and it will be hard to find one repainted for $2,500.

There are a couple rust things. You could probably take care of it and have the undercarriage sprayed with POR 15. Pretty sure someone at work had that done.
I don't think you are going to easily find a local car in this good of shape at a decent price. Just my 2 cents.
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I agree. The only thing I could hold out for is a southern vehicle.
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If you drive the Caprice all winter, that will probably be the end of that... Then you have the spring/summer/fall to strip and scrap the Caprice and start moving parts over to the Roadmaster.

Then you could put the CTS-V in storage for the winter and put the Roadmaster in the garage next winter and start the transformation...
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The only thing I could hold out for is a southern vehicle.
Unless Bob finds one within an hour from his house that is Black, without the old man roof, finding a southern car is a pipe dream.

After going to Jersey for nothing twice, I can't imagine you are going to only make 1 trip to the "south" before you actually find one. If you were retired, and had plenty of time and money, maybe things would be different.
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Something was up with the trunk lid. It looked like it had some small dents in it which weren't that noticeable. But it seemed to be bent a little on the right rear. His string trimmer fell on the C pillar recently and made a small dent.

The front fender to door gap on one side was pretty big at the top. Looked like maybe the fender alignment wasn't right or maybe the door alignment. No functional issues, just something I noticed.
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This just in:
Thanks for stopping by yesterday. I really hope you buy the car. Here is the Blackstone report on the engine FYI...Bob
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kevm14
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My reply back:
Bob,

I agree the report is very good. Thanks for letting my son use your bathroom yesterday. He liked your cats.

The only thing holding me back at this point is the rust. I know none of it looked like it was structurally compromised, but there were a number of areas that I would have to aggressively treat to ensure it lasts. I have no doubt that I would enjoy the car, but I'd really like to get another 10+ years out of it. As much as I don't want to look back and regret not buying your car, I don't want to look back and regret not buying something from a southern state. So, still mulling it over.

-Kevin
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kevm14 wrote:This just in:
Thanks for stopping by yesterday. I really hope you buy the car. Here is the Blackstone report on the engine FYI...Bob
Yeah, you definitely wont get an oil analysis on most used Roadmasters, so that's something.
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If the engine is so good, it almost is too bad that you would be removing it... Unless there was something else that could be made awesome with it...
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