Repair-It

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/us/po ... t_msn&_r=0

Like the Comey discussion, I think there will also be discussion about the Trump voting demographic. It would be tempted to dismiss the frst woman as simply being a Trump voter due to her churchgoing-ness. But that misses two major points: 1) Trump did not run on a religious platform at all and 2) She is reported as a lifelong Democrat, which wouldn't have been the case if she simply voted Republican tickets due to religious reasons. Which is a thing, of course.

I guess I enjoy the confusion on the left about the demographics of Trump voters. It doesn't match their narrative.

And they said they are troubled, as well, by an America that seems to have embraced multiculturalism and political correctness without question. They said they did not understand the Black Lives Matter movement, wondered why Democrats seemed so fixated on transgender access to bathrooms and tended to be enraged at the way veterans are treated and violence directed at the police.

So is the argument here that we have gone too progressive too fast, and this election was a correction to that rate? That seems to be what the data suggests.

And somewhat of a counter-point:
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/do ... on-economy

I think it is funny how the pollsters were totally wrong and everyone is trying to make sense of this at a very granular level.

I think it might be simpler than that.

President Obama ran on change for 8 years and won on that. A lot of people either didn't like the change we got, or still think that the common person is not being helped by career politicians.

This election had 2 candidates that were very unpopular due to personal trashing as a campaign strategy.
One was defined as a career politician, very embedded with the last 8 years of leadership and perceived to be pushed forward by wall street and a corrupt Democratic Convention.
The other was not a career politician and was rabidly against career politicians and thinks that this country should be doing much better for the people than it is.

I don't think there were any other thoughts going on for voters except maybe that it would be cool to have a first woman president.

I really don't think many people voted based on granular issues. I don't really support either candidate, but I hope for the best.

What I would challenge is who and where the pollsters were getting their data from? Perhaps they were just talking to registered Democrats and not actually going all across the country and getting actual data? Or perhaps the people that were planning on voting for Trump just weren't going to tell a pollster what their opinion was. Or perhaps the media was just biased and wanted Hilary to win so they were just reporting that Hilary was winning because they didn't want to give Trump supporters hope.

dochielomn wrote:What I would challenge is who and where the pollsters were getting their data from?

Online polls on MSNBC's Facebook page?

Adam wrote:

dochielomn wrote:What I would challenge is who and where the pollsters were getting their data from?

Online polls on MSNBC's Facebook page?

Haha, yeah, sounds about right. And I'm sure it didn't limit someone to only "vote" once.