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CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:02 pm
by kevm14
http://jalopnik.com/yes-you-can-hoon-a- ... 1507658746
This is old but was kind of funny.
I love my Blizzaks. Worth every penny. And having proper winter tires means I also get to drive proper summer tires as well, and not (compromised-in-)all-seasons.
Yeah for sure, I agree. Summer rubber is where it's at. All seasons are like using a butter knife to cut steak and also bread. It'll work. Just not as well a steak knife and a bread knife would work.
I will use that now.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:05 pm
by kevm14
This made me sad. And happy to live in the US.
America must be paradise.
In Germany, a V6 (even if small and not very powerful) is great.
You wear the "V6"-badge with pride on your Camry, not because you are boring to chose a Toyota, you chose the car because it has a large, powerful engine. Something cool and somewhat rare.
Not a 2 liter inline-4, you have 6 cylinders. As a V. A sports car. With muscles.
You have the "V6T" on your S4/S5 not because you forgot to opt the badge out, you chose it because it shows you have a "racing engine" (not from an hardcore enthusiast point of view, but as common perception).
You own a V6 car because you are important and attack the Autobahn or overtake everyone on the Landstraße as your time is precious.
Or because you are a young enthusiast and already achieved a lot and paid lots of money to have a fun car.
A V6 is something bold, cool, powerful, massive around here, where you are happy to drive anything with a displacement > 2 liter.
It must be nice being able to complain about a V6.
Of course, Bill's current fleet resembles this remark. And Bob's. And Frank.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:20 pm
by Bob
V6s I have owned:
1988 Toyota 4Runner - 3.0L V6 150 HP, 180 lb-ft
1989 Chevy Corsica - 2.8L V6 130 HP, 160 lb-ft
2007 Kia Rondo - 2.7L V6 182 HP, 182 lb-ft
I think the 4Runner's V6 was probably the best of these three, but this reaffirms the point the article was making out V6s.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:39 pm
by kevm14
I am also very light on V6s, never owning one. Maxima and Malibu are the only that even remotely qualify. Both had under 200 hp, though one of them was a very high water mark for N/A V6s in the 90s.
Oh yeah.
2000 Malibu - 3.1L V6, 170 hp, 190 lb-ft
1996 Maxima - 3.0L V6, 190 hp, 205 lb-ft
Bill had the 626 and Z24 which were solidly in the same ballpark as all of what we've listed so far.
If you really want to sick yourself:
1990 Continental - 3.8L V6, 140 hp, 215 lb-ft (tepid V8 performance, now conveniently packaged in an unreliable V6 for your convenience)
I am not counting my parents' cars, which would have added the GM 3500 and Ford Vulcan.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:42 pm
by bill25
Cars with engines I have owned - it is sad really...
Topaz - 4 cyl something... maybe a low 2.something 3 or 4 HP (I think the 90 HP 2.3)
Sable GS- Junk car - 3.0 V6 - 140 HP - 3.0 L SFI Vulcan V6 140 hp (104 kW) 160 ft·lbf (217 N·m) 4-speed AXOD automatic (1986–90)
Then the Z24 - Wooooo 2.8 V6 with exhaust (not just the muffler, and not a fart can), probably still less than 140HP total. Exact numbers are hard to find, and changed slightly depending on the year.
Next was the Monte Carlo SS - Junk condition but Woooooo - V8 HO 305 - 180 HP
Then V6 Jimmy, also the 2.8 V6, so sad in this platform...
1998 Mazda 626 - 2.5 V6 - 170 HP.
1999 Volvo S80 - 2.9 V6 201 HP
That was the sad peak of performance
2003 Corolla - 1.8 4 cyl - 125 HP
2009 Mazda 3 - 2.0 4 cyl - 148 HP
So the totals:
4cyl: 3
6cyl: 5 if you count the Sable, but I only had it a couple months. It is ok, I think I paid 200 for it...
8cyl: Sadly, 1.
Top 3 HP cars:
201 - Volvo - Thing was probably 5000 lbs. though... (Ok it was 3600 lbs.)
180 - Monte Carlo - 3239 lbs.
170 - Mazda 626 - 2994 lbs.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:16 am
by kevm14
billgiacheri wrote:
Sable - Junk car - 3.0 V6 - 140 HP
I thought the Sable was the 3.8.
Re: CTS Vsport on ice
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:50 pm
by bill25
It was an 87 Sable GS. - 3.0.
The below is a decent free sight to decode basic stuff from a VIN.
I think maybe where we list our cars and stuff like this should be it's own thread vice the CTS Vsport.
I looked up the VIN from here:
http://www.vin-decoder.org/
Model Year 1987
Make Mercury
Model Sable
Engine Type 3 Li V6
Body Sedan
Style 4 Dr GS Sedan
Fuel Gas
Transmission A
Safety ACTIVE BELTS
Driveline FWD
MPG 0 miles/gallon
Wheelsize R0
Wheelbase 106 in.
Overall Width 70 in.
Overall Length 192 in.
Overall Height 54 in.
Vehicle Weight 0
Manufactured In CHICAGO, IL