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2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:02 am
by kevm14
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-dod ... 0EC9F1F4F8

I don't know that I care about this. I don't know what the power or performance levels will be, but I will say if they could break into the high 10s on street tires, that would be truly something. That will not be possible on street tires with RWD in my opinion.

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:04 am
by kevm14
One guy says:
It will be:

A) a Hellcat with stripped interior and lightweight parts

B) a Hellcat with wider rear tires and 750-ish horsepower

C) a Hellcat with the Grand Cherokee trackhawk AWD system

D) a mix of the above.
This is reasonable actually. A combination of the above would without a doubt put it on the high 10s.

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:11 pm
by kevm14
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-dod ... 8A849CA7D1

Demon drops all but the driver's seat, carpet, most speakers, trunk trim, the spare tire cover, parking sensors, noise dampening, the electronic tilt/telescoping steering wheel.

Funny "joke" I just thought of:
What do you call a Hellcat with extreme weight saving measures?

Answer: A 4,300 pound car.
So it will weigh 4550 lbs rather than 4600 lbs?
Haha, right.

There is really no point to this car. Anyone can already buy a Hellcat, turn it up a tad, rip some stuff out, put better tires on it, and run a mid 10 or whatever. I don't see why it is important to buy this from the factory. They are trying to create the same magic that happened in the late 60s and I don't think it works that way.

Anyway, a whopping 215 pounds was spared which is pretty pathetic really.
Now other manufactures are taking a page out of Porsche's book. 'Take out components and charge more!'
I think Leno mentioned something like this. So they'll charge you to take out the seat, and AGAIN to put it back! Not far from the truth really.

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:15 pm
by kevm14
You might ask yourself: what is GM doing about this?

They are doing a COPO Camaro.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1106 ... dragstrips

A REAL drag car, right from GM.
Chevrolet says it has more than 5,000 interested parties in its 69 cars, and it will hire an outside firm to determine which customers will be able to purchase this race-ready drag machine.
lol

So I'd argue this beats the Demon at its own game.
Buyers will be able to choose from three engines, two from the older LS lineup and one from the new LT range. The LS engines consist of the supercharged 350-cubic-inch V-8 and the naturally aspirated 427-cubic inch (7.0-liter) V-8,. The LT-based engine is a direct-injected 376-cubic inch (6.2-liter) V-8. All three engines will come mated to a drag-ready TH400 3-speed automatic transmission.

Chevrolet says the supercharged 5.7 has an NHRA rating of 580 horsepower. It is capable of quarter-mile times in the 8.5-second range at a speed of 162 mph. It runs in the Factory Stock Showdown class at 3,550 pounds. The 7.0-liter has an NHRA horsepower rating of 470 and it can put up 9.2-second quarter-mile times at 150 mph. The 6.2's NHRA rating is 410 horsepower and it hits a 9.7-second quarter-mile time at 145 mph.

Pricing should range from the low $90,000s to about $110,000.
I don't see the Demon even cracking 9s. ALL of these COPO options run at least 9s, and one is in the mid-8s.

Of course we know from Sloppy Mechanics that you can spend 1/10th of this and go just as fast. But you have to, you know, do stuff.

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:44 pm
by bill25
The COPO is awesome, but, I like the second part of the article better:

Chevrolet engineers have made more than 100 quarter-mile runs with the development cars, posting a quarter-mile time as quick as 10.685 seconds at 125.73 mph, an eighth-mile time of 6.764 seconds at 100.85 mph, and a 60-foot time of 1.425 seconds.

Here are the mods to a stock SS:
•a cam-and-heads package
•Chevrolet Performance air induction and exhaust systems
•a torque converter with a 4,200 rpm stall speed (about 30 percent higher than the stock converter)
•Gen 6 Camaro ZL1 half-shafts and prop shaft
•Gen 5 ZL1 250mm, 3.73-geared rear-axle center section (nicknamed “Gravedigger”for its durability)
•smaller rear brake rotors that allow the use of 16-inch rear racing wheels and slicks.


The big difference is (other than the COPO is faster... ) the COPO doesn't come with a VIN, at least the gen 5 COPOs didn't. These were sold specifically with the caveat that they can't be driven on the street. The modded SS, and the Demon are street legal. (I think)

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:55 pm
by kevm14
Oh. Good point about the VIN. I didn't know that.

Re: 2018 Challenger SRT Demon

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:13 pm
by bill25
I couldn't find it on the Chevrolet site but here it is in reference to the 2012 COPO:

http://www.superchevy.com/features/1230 ... end-lives/
This is a race car, through and through, and it is being built by Chevrolet Performance specifically to compete in NHRA Stock Eliminator competition. That means you don’t get a VIN, you can’t drive it on the street, and you have to sign a contract with General Motors that states as much.