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M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadillac

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:51 am
by kevm14
http://www.motortrend.com/news/intervie ... -cadillac/

And I thought Csaba Csere was hard to spell...

Anyway, overall I'd say he said all of the things I personally wanted to hear. Frankly I could quote the entire article but here are a few that really resonate.
For example, de Nysschen had a couple theories that explain why sedan sales are on the decline in the U.S.

“It’s partially happening because of energy prices, where people are less focused on fuel consumption and sedans being lighter,” he said. “But also it’s been driven now by the entry of younger consumers who really are less tuned into dynamics and handling and all of those things that used to excite enthusiasts. It’s more about the way cars complement and enable their lifestyle now. And candidly, I also have to say it may also be influenced a little bit by the decay of America’s infrastructure. When roads no longer support high-performance sport sedans and ultra-low-profile rubber, people are going to respond to it.”
I think his assessment is right on. Conclusion: Millennials and bad roads are ruining cars. Jokes aside I think this is pretty much right. Snow belt states usually have terrible roads and fewer people are like "I need the sport suspension with low profile tires" in anything but a dedicated sports car.

I also really liked his answer on the future of Super Cruise:
Thankfully, he also doesn’t see Super Cruise turning future Cadillacs into autonomous transportation pods.

“For us, it would make no sense to spend all the time, resources, and, candidly, money to put all this dynamic substance into our cars—our cars are fantastic to drive, they are rewarding, they’re exhilarating, they’re comfortable, luxurious, refined, but they’re also performance cars—to put all of that capability into the vehicle and then remove the option of driving,” he said. “That would be absurd. For us, luxury is about having the freedom to choose. And a Cadillac personal autonomous vehicle will have autonomous capability, it will allow the driver the opportunity to drive themselves and enjoy a finely crafted automobile, but when the mood takes them or the circumstances dictate, they can let the car do the onerous part of driving for them. That is the longer-term timeline, the horizon view for Cadillac.”
I like that Cadillac is still maintaining focus on delivering vehicles that are good to drive.

I also approve of this:
“V in the future will continue to play a very important part in terms of creating this halo brand cachet around Cadillac,” he said. “We are a luxury brand, but we are also about producing exhilarating driver’s cars, and nowhere is this more clearly brought to bear than in V. Not all Cadillacs will feature Vs [in the future], but certainly a far broader part of the future portfolio will see this sport and V-Sport execution.”
Although Cadillac’s racing efforts are still focused on the U.S., its sales efforts are now focused on China. Cadillac recently finished building a new factory there, and from the sound of it, the investment is already paying off. Even though U.S. sales were down 8.0 percent in 2017, a 50.8 percent sales increase in China meant Cadillac saw an overall increase of 15.5 percent

“The Cadillac plant in Shanghai is, in fact, the most modern General Motors plant in the world, and it’s highly automated,” he said. “For us, the investment into this state-of-the-art plant in China has given us the ability to kick-start a very wide range of product offerings at very competitive prices because we could circumvent the various tariffs that are applied to imported vehicles. But it also really forces you to focus. If you have that kind of investment into fixed costs and structural costs, you better make sure you develop the volume really quickly to support it.”

However, that doesn’t mean Cadillac plans to build cars that are exclusive to the Chinese market. According to de Nysschen, it’s not necessary.
“Generally, luxury car consumers the world over are savvy people,” he said. “They’ve had their perceptions and opinions shaped by the fact that they are well traveled. But even if they aren’t, the world is a global village nowadays. Everybody has access to information. It shapes people’s wants, desires, and tastes. There are some specifics that are different, like colors, trim, and some feature content. But predominantly, what drives a luxury car consumer in China and Europe and the United States is not that disparate.”
So China is a growing market. He also makes the argument that luxury car standards are fairly universal. I guess, though there are a few sub-segments. For example, the long wheelbase/low power engine combo for China. Or pure luxury vs luxury/sport. I guess those sub-segments can be dealt with using engines/trim levels rather than dedicated platforms.

I love this one:
“I think this will be determined by a number of considerations,” he said. “One of the things that we have to consider is that if you export from China, whatever you produce and export there you share with a partner. So it would have to be a product with a pretty compelling advantage to be financially more attractive than building the car locally. More likely you would do this for entries that are relatively low volume, that are required for the Chinese market in the first place, that might be interesting for export markets but where the volume opportunity is just too limited to develop tooling. The second scenario would be where you have surplus capacity in China and you’ve got greater demand in other markets that you are unable to supply with your U.S. manufacturing base. So it’s incremental.”
By "partner" he means "The Chinese government." It still frustrates me that the rest of the world seems to be biased to their own domestic products by policy but when the US looks at policy like that everyone is like "oh, no, that would be damaging."

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:52 pm
by bill25
It is kind of cool to hear automakers open up enough to show their frustration with the current customer demand signals.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:54 pm
by bill25
Goes to show that they don't really want to make millions of crossovers, but they realize they need to stay in business. Wonder how they could influence outside factors driving people away from auto enthusiasm.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:03 pm
by kevm14
You know if you think about consumer products, cars are probably the only thing that's been in the general market for 110 years and still automakers are trying to differentiate to be something more special than a simple commodity. I think natural market forces are trying to make cars into commodities. Everything else becomes a commodity in 5-20 years from tech introduction. But then cars are ingrained in our culture. Or, they were. It seems now that people are kind of "over" cars, increasingly.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:31 pm
by bill25
Cars are one of the few things that you can actually go 60 mph with though. That is a much more physical feeling. Sure, tech comes out and it is cool and they add a tablet or TV to a refrigerator, that is pretty benign when it comes to physical excitement. Maybe one of the things hurting the car enthusiast culture is the fact that 60 in a new car feels like 20 in a car from the 80's. By cars being more capable they are less exciting at operating speeds, so if the ride is going to be boring even at 60, it is turning into an appliance to people.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:54 pm
by kevm14
I hadn't considered that. I guess my instincts say that is not it but there is at least a correlation.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:38 am
by kevm14
Breaking: He's been fired.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/cadillac ... 1B366A18AF

Given the sales progress on his watch I can understand why.
Cadillac has had a full stable of cars in a world increasingly migrating to crossovers and SUVs and pickups. Some of those cars have not performed well, and de Nysschen was reluctant to use heavy incentives in a bid to increase their overall residual value.

When Cadillac moved to New York and began to separate itself financially, the goal was to have Cadillacs on unique platforms. But de Nysschen came up against the reality that commonality with other GM brands is often necessary for new products to be financially viable. It is a compromise he was more willing to make with crossovers than with cars.
I would argue that Omega (bespoke) is doing better in its segment than the ATS and CTS on Alpha (shared).
The brand has adopted a “Y strategy” that starts with a luxury-spec car and can go in one of two avenues: upgrade the luxury content to make it more sophisticated or branch off into a sport personality. “You might have two cars at similar price points but of a different content,” de Nysschen said.
I actually think this is a fine strategy. They just need to execute.
On the utility side, the profit generator has been the full-size Escalade SUV, a body-on-frame beast that is well into its life cycle. It is up against a shiny new Lincoln Navigator that has received strong reviews and forced Ford to increase production to keep up with demand.

The next-generation Escalade is not due until 2021. “The next Escalade’s gonna blow you away,” de Nysschen had promised. It will remain body-on-frame and keep the Escalade name, having built a large and loyal customer base that dealers will have to entice to keep from running to Lincoln.
Curious about Escalade sales leading to 2021 then.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:31 am
by kevm14
He became president of Cadillac in August 2014 after running the Infiniti brand for Nissan. Before that, he led Audi in North America.
In my simplified view, he did a lot of good for Audi, which is both popular in terms of sales and doing very well on the auto journalist review circuit, even as they continue to push what is now a pretty old design language. On the other hand, I do not think Infiniti is better off following his rein. I think they are mostly wandering around in the dark as a sub-tier luxury brand.

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:02 pm
by bill25
And... Cadillac is leaving New York... Back to Detroit.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/ca ... spartanntp

Re: M/T: Johan de Nysschen interview on the future of Cadill

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:34 pm
by kevm14
More evidence that there is hope for them.