Steven Crowder: Gay convervatives speak out in Austin

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kevm14
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Steven Crowder: Gay convervatives speak out in Austin

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https://youtu.be/WfUM6glxCAY

Holy shit look at that. I will say I am still luke warm on the Change My Mind debates (I think he tries to be Ben Shapiro and there is no competing with Ben), but this was excellent.

There is too much good discussion in the comments to cover it all but here are some good ones:
It's mighty lonely being a gay conservative here in Seattle (being any kind of conservative in Seattle -- but I still love living here).

These days there are fewer and fewer right-wingers like Santorum saying disgusting things about all gays, and fewer people on the Right feeling you can't be Republican or a conservative UNLESS you are hostile to gay folks, so it's becoming safer for gays to be conservative. It's also great having courageous role models out there like Rick Grenell, Tammy Bruce, and Milo.

One reason for the rise of gay conservatives is the Left's approval and promotion of the most murderously anti-gay ideology on earth: Islam. This has driven even Michael Lucas, the CEO of the largest gay porn company, to become a conservative activist bravely speaking out against Islam and making documentaries about how good it is for gays in Israel (the only place in the mideast where gays are safe) and how increasingly bad it is in Russia.

Gay conservatives unite! You have nothing to lose but being taken for granted by the Democratic Party, which is happily throwing us under the bus to promote Islam.
So much for the narrative of tolerance, eh?
lost friends when I came out as conservative but no friends when I came out as gay so tell me who are the Hippocrates are.
The left is too busy promoting identity and intersectional politics.
This is so inspiring to see. I thought I was the only gay man who felt like similarly.
Since I moved to Seattle, I've seen so much assumption & judgment from the left on so many things that I've never once seen from conservatives in my personal life.
People still talk to me like I'm hardcore Democratic because 1) I live here, 2) because I'm gay, and 3) because I'm not Christian.
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And while I think they occasionally have some decent thoughts, most of the time they are driving me more and more right. The problem is thinking society should run solely on feelings and good intentions, instead of looking at the facts and being logical about decisions/issues.
I don't know, it just seems like a breath of fresh air, rather than the weight of PC and triggered culture that the left is pushing. Which is why Trump has actually had some positive effect on this country. That's right. I saw a statistic like every Democrat candidate who opposed the Kavanaugh nomination was not favored by voters, at least in swing states. Here is something: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 915457002/

It is normal to lose the house in the first mid-term of a new presidency. Bush managed to buck that trend though I think 9/11 had a lot to do with it. But other than that, I think the Republicans lost the LEAST amount of house seats in the first mid-term of a new presidency in decades. Take a look at this:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/242093/mid ... dents.aspx

No really, look at that. Says the average house seat loss of the president's party in the first mid-term election of the new presidency is 25. If the president has a better than 50% approval, that average is 14 lost seats. If the president had a worse than 50% approval, the average loss is 37 seats. Obama had a 45% approval rating in 2010. Obama's party lost 63 house seats. 63! And lost the senate. That is the most since 1946. Meanwhile, if you believe the media and the left, Trump, the worst guy ever in the history of politics, people and probably even mammals, who had an approval rating that I cannot verify right now but was probably 39-45%, only lost 27 seats. And kept the Senate. And 9 out of 11 candidates that Trump personally supported, won against their Democratic rivals. I'll let that all sink in.

But yeah, people are tired of the bullshit and tired of the political activism so barely veiled as objective journalism.

What's also interesting is there were some tight races in Florida and Texas with some VERY radical Democrat candidates who had multi-million dollar campaigns, the full support of the media and even Obama. Still lost, though not by enough of a margin in my opinion...

Anyway I am just rambling and venting. I find that the left basically does the exact opposite of some of their claims:
- Against racism (they are the only platform that actually runs on race!!)
- For tolerance (as long as you agree with them)
- For civil discourse (you should shout people down if they disagree)
- Mobs are bad (LOL)
- For free speech (this one is weak - I don't think they actually are for free speech, which is ludicrous)
- For equality of outcome (this is dumb - equality of opportunity is all we can and should guarantee)

I honestly don't know what the real platform is. I think the platform is....those guys on the right are racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes and we will stop them. We're good people. Yeah RIGHT!

You know what conservatism is?
- Upholding the Constitution because the formation of this country was a genius idea and we should never take our founding ideology for granted
- Women have rights because of the Constitution, NOT in spite of it
- Slavery was abolished because of the Constitution, NOT in spite of it
- I don't care what you do as long as you aren't bothering me
- You are responsible for your destiny and everyone has an opportunity for a good life if they so choose - don't believe people who tell you nothing is your fault and someone else is to blame. That only makes it HARDER to succeed, NOT easier.
- Capitalism is not evil - and having money does not automatically mean that you stole it from someone else. Having more money than someone else is not immoral, neither is it unjust.
- Socialism IS evil and countries like Sweden and Norway are capitalist/free market economies with absolutely SMOTHERING social programs which are completely unsustainable (the distinction being that they are NOT socialist economies). Taking my money to give to someone else IS immoral AND unjust.
- Always trend toward a smaller government. The smaller the government is, the less ALL of this bullshit matters!!! Think about it for a second.
- PC is bullshit. Also, facts don't care about your feelings.
- YOU DON'T GOVERN OR LEGISLATE BASED ON EMOTIONS
- Accusing someone of racism or rape, with no evidence, is not justified for any purpose (political or otherwise)
- Race, skin color and culture are all different things that should never be conflated. Conservatism is about a set of values, period.
- Oh, the alt-right can go F themselves. But don't worry, the radical left is a WAY bigger part of the Democrats than the alt-right is to Republicans. Similarly, I could make a very strong argument that the Republican party has done a lot more to shun the alt-right than the Democrats have done to shun the radical left (for example, Antifa). This one is easy to prove, too.

If your counter argument is that my sex or the color of my skin makes my arguments automatically invalid, then guess what? Fuck you! And I think these mid-terms mostly reflected the same mindset.
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Re: Steven Crowder: Gay convervatives speak out in Austin

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kevm14 wrote:It is normal to lose the house in the first mid-term of a new presidency. Bush managed to buck that trend though I think 9/11 had a lot to do with it. But other than that, I think the Republicans lost the LEAST amount of house seats in the first mid-term of a new presidency in decades. Take a look at this:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/242093/mid ... dents.aspx

No really, look at that. Says the average house seat loss of the president's party in the first mid-term election of the new presidency is 25. If the president has a better than 50% approval, that average is 14 lost seats. If the president had a worse than 50% approval, the average loss is 37 seats. Obama had a 45% approval rating in 2010. Obama's party lost 63 house seats. 63! And lost the senate. That is the most since 1946. Meanwhile, if you believe the media and the left, Trump, the worst guy ever in the history of politics, people and probably even mammals, who had an approval rating that I cannot verify right now but was probably 39-45%, only lost 27 seats. And kept the Senate. And 9 out of 11 candidates that Trump personally supported, won against their Democratic rivals. I'll let that all sink in.
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling ... sults.aspx

Says approval rating was 41%.
This year, Trump's job approval rating was 41% just before the elections, broadly similar to the approval ratings for Bill Clinton in 1994 (46%), George W. Bush in 2006 (38%) and Barack Obama in 2010 (45%), midterm years when each president's party lost a majority in the House of Representatives. By contrast, when the president's party gained seats in 1998 and 2002, the president's final pre-election job approval rating was above 60%.
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