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http://www.cadillac.com/v-series.html?e ... 4246648278

http://autoweek.com/article/los-angeles ... dailydrive

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-c ... -info-news

Without reading anything at all (i.e. internet mode: enabled), I would like to log my official complaint about the use of the 3.6L TT engine. That 450hp would have been way better from the LT1. That said, I do understand the marketing reason for the 3.6, and it's not like it will be a bad performer or something. But the LT1 would do better in basically every single condition (it still has more torque), particularly under heat soak conditions. But I would have preferred the LT1 and suitable marketing to explain to the eurotrash of the world why it is not a compromise, but actually the best choice.

At least it looks nice.

Fortunately I think the CTS-V3 will retain a V8, probably LT4-derived.

Now to do some reading.

The use of 18s is admirable. So is the selection of Michelin Pilot Super Sport.

Impressive. Coupe or sedan. 6-speed manual or 8-speed auto (8L90?), right at launch. This is good. Typically GM would stagger this stuff over time.

EDIT: yes, the new (in-house) 8L90, per C/D.

Corvette PDR. That's cool.

I wonder what pricing will be. Maybe $52k for base model, on up to maybe $65k fully loaded?

Wow, C/D even used the 18 inch wheels as the intro focus for their article.

Takes 18psi to make the same HP that the LT1 makes with 0 psi. And I would be shocked if this got better fuel economy, rated or real world.
Fun fact: new engine is RPO LF4. I'm not going to remember that.
Fun fact 2: it can do burnouts. http://blog.caranddriver.com/dont-worry ... -burnouts/

It should be no surprise that the 3.6 TT would be an option. This is the same chassis as the new Grand National which has already been speculated to use the 3.6 TT drive train.

If you want to talk disappointments, that means that the new GN will just be a cheaper ATS. Great waste of a great name. Now the GN will directly compete with a Cadillac for what reason? Both will be upscale performance vehicles so what separates the 2?

I guess GM is in a tough spot. This will be the chassis for the new Camaro, which will have the 8. This will be the chassis for the new GN/GNX so it will be the 6 cylinder super car. So what is the Caddy left with? The problem here is that GM has 2 huge names to deliver The Camaro, and the GN. How does this new 3rd car fit?

The weird part is that the Caddy should be the gold standard, but since this is a new model, it is hard to think that it should/will be better than the other 2 cars that have history.

The other thing I forgot to mention is that if the ATS was given the 8, it would be faster than the CTS because it is smaller and lighter.

Right now, the CTS is Cadillac's halo car at least as far as sales and popularity.

I guess, but since there is no CTS-V, it's not unreasonable for an ATS-V to outperform a non-V CTS.

Talking GN for a sec, you're looking at over 450hp from a turbo 6. That's on the higher end of what you see these days from such engines (almost all the German stuff at this HP is a V8). But that particular piece of trivia doesn't interest me personally too much. The GN formula can't be repeated because the conditions don't support it. Therefore, comparing the new GN to whatever the name meant in the 80s will not be very relevant.

I have been thinking about this lately.

I do think that the GN could do what it did in the 80's.

Here is what it would have to do based on todays standards.

I agree with you that America vs. America is not ideal.
With that mindset, the Grand National of today needs to beat the Nissan GT-R. That is the litmus test for this platform. It is direct competition to the GN legacy:

You look at the GT-R highlights:
2 Door
Turbo 6
High Technology
0 to 60 times - 3.2 sec
HP is around 530
Oh yeah, and they make a special all black one. The SpecV - with an exclusive Ultimate Black Opal paint job

You would think that this was the description of the new GN. (Maybe I should be looking at these very used...)


That is what the new GN needs to beat to repeat history. Anything less is a reused badge on a car that is unworthy.
There really isn't any reason why a car with a chassis engineered to handle and be light paired with a TT drivetrain around 450 HP shouldn't be a possible competitor.

The Buick needs to win though.