I know, it was a straw man. And "wrong track" is the first reasonable thing you've said about the 2019 refresh. I have a problem with the binary, extreme language.bill25 wrote:I never said any of that. I mean, it sounds like the Mustang is getting better performance wise, and looks like a Mustang for the most part. I am not saying I would want a Mustang because Ford did a better job making a Mustang looking Mustang than Chevy did making a Camaro looking Camaro. I just wish I didn't feel like Chevy was on the wrong track with the Camaro aesthetic.
Ah but you do. You love to tell me how all these people you know agree with you about some styling thing, as evidence that your opinion is right! If you were really right, they'd sell zero of them, because a Camaro SS is not an appliance car. Or, your contention is that, basically, blind people are buying them.I don't care what other people think about it, I think it is ugly.
Again, "wrong direction" is perfectly reasonable and we can discuss that.I was referring to other opinions just to say I wasn't the only one on the planet that thought the refresh was in the wrong direction.
Camaros in general are not appliances and the SS trim is certainly not an appliance. So like I said above, unless they sell zero of them, then obviously your opinion is extreme and you just don't realize it.A lot of people buy stuff as an appliance and don't care what it looks like. I mean people bought the Aztek. That doesn't mean it looked good.
Never said looks don't matter more on a car like the Camaro. But you talk in absolutes like it's a "fact" that the 2019 is "ugly." I will never agree with any of that as you've laid it out. The only "fact" is you do not like the 2019 refresh and would not buy one as a result. That is fine even if I think it is extreme. My issue is when you try to make arguments that you aren't just expressing an opinion that the 2019 refresh is "ugly", but it is a FACT. That's where I have a problem - and here's a fact: lots of people agreeing with something does not make it a fact, either. I am not disagreeing that YOU think it's ugly - but that it is FACT that it is ugly. Do you see the distinction there?Basically, I am a Camaro fan, and if they make it ugly, I think that sucks. That doesn't seem like it would be difficult to understand. And yeah, details matter. Maybe not on an econobox appliance, but for something you want to get into, I think it is normal to care about details. That is what keeps the aftermarket alive. People want to customize to their preferences.
