Mazda3 Replacement

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bill25
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Well, this is out... LOL
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusi ... spartanntp

It would have been kinda cool if it were cheap. Way less cool when expensive.


Silver lining???
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kevm14
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Re: Mazda3 Replacement

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Did I read that correctly that they only just surpassed Impala SS values?
bill25
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I think so but specifically in #2 condition:
It has a #2 (Excellent) value of $22,100.
kevm14
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https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationt ... y-Marauder
0-60 mph came in 7.5 seconds, the quarter mile came in 15.5 seconds, and the top speed was a limited 117 mph. The numbers weren’t bad, but the older rear-drive Impala SS to which the Mercury Marauder was inevitably compared did 0-60 about a second faster and was the better car in most measures. But even though the Marauder was not quite as wild as its menacing name suggested, it’s still a neat sleeper sedan that’s more than fast enough to have fun with and, finished in black, makes whoever is sitting behind the wheel look like an FBI agent.
Damn right Impala SS was better. All is right with the world. No wonder they sold so many. They had better performance than the Marauder almost 10 years earlier!

Rating system:
Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the vehicle has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 vehicles is "concours."
#2 vehicles could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 vehicles that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and finishes will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine. The vehicle will drive as a new vehicle of its era would. The one word description for #2 vehicles is "excellent."
#3 vehicles could possess some, but not all of the issues of a #4 vehicle, but they will be balanced by other factors such as a fresh paint job or a new, correct interior where applicable. #3 vehicles drive and run well, but might have some incorrect parts. These vehicles are not used for daily transportation but are ready for a long tour without excuses, and the casual passerby will not find any visual flaws. "Good" is the one word description of a #3 vehicle.
#4 vehicles are daily drivers, with flaws visible to the naked eye. The chrome might have pitting or scratches, the windshield might be chipped. Paintwork is imperfect, and perhaps the body has a minor dent. Split seams or a cracked dash, where applicable, might be present. No major parts are missing, but the wheels could differ from the originals, or other non- stock additions might be present. A #4 vehicle can also be a deteriorated restoration. "Fair" is the one word that describes a #4 vehicle.
03 Marauder
#1 Concours
$29,400

#2 Excellent
$22,100

#3 Good
$17,400

#4 Fair
$11,600
96 Impala SS
#1 Concours
$31,200

#2 Excellent
$21,200

#3 Good
$15,100

#4 Fair
$9,500
kevm14
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I registered for a free Hagerty account (they have a pay account, too). Pay account provides 5 year and all-time values. I could see this being useful in the Bring a Trailer game...

Here are the 3 year values for the 03 Marauder.
03 Marauder 3 year value.PNG
96 Impala SS 3 year values. It is interesting that this has a shape to it and the Marauder is just flat, and then spiked up.
Impala SS 3 year values.PNG
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kevm14
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05 GTO.
05 GTO 3 year values.PNG
So the question is, how common can you find manual 05s under $10k?
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Manual LS2s are just beginning to dip below $10k but I'm talking bottom of market/not nearby. Autos are much easier to find below $10k but I would skip the auto completely. In fact I'd get a manual 04 over an auto 05-06 I think. I do like the upgraded brakes on the 05-06 cars though. But that can be dealt with, especially for big savings. I will check 04s tomorrow or something.
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$8,500 for a manual 04. Needs the headlights polished...

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Just under 100k.

04 comments. 14.0 @ 102 is equivalent to the slightly later model G35 stuff (now available in this exact price range) but was apparently faster than the first gen:
The GTO charges headlights ablaze out of a toxic cloud of tire smoke to turn 5.3 seconds at 60 mph and 14 flat in the quarter-mile at 102 mph, clobbering with big-bore snort new import coupes such as the Infiniti G35 and Mazda RX-8.
Subsequently, don't expect the GTO to two-step like a Corvette. There's more sponge in the steering, more roll in the tires, more lean and bob in the body. Yet the GTO pulled 0.88 g on the skidpad, a testament to its fundamental balance and stability. The GTO's handling is really more Deutschland than Detroit. In corners the front end bites hard and the rear tracks dutifully, the understeer staying mostly in the shadows. Hanging the tail out is a challenge, even with all the power on tap; the Pontiac prefers to scrub its excess speed through the front tires. This is a car for getting where you're going, not putting on a stunt show.

Along the way, expect a supple ride over expansion joints and cold-patch cracks, until the tires hit something big. The bump stops are rigid, a compromise to permit the tires and 17-inch alloy wheels to fit into the small wheelhouses without constant rubbing. At least the GTO's stiff, rattle-free body soaks up shakes that would've had the old Camaro and Firebird shedding parts.
With a little brake upgrade, it actually sounds like a damn nice daily driver, with a compliant suspension but still refined handling.
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Couldn't find C&D specs on the 05 but here is a M/T article.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/c ... omparison/
The GTO outgunned the SRT8 from 0 to 60 (4.7 seconds versus 5.0), 0 to 100 (11.7 versus 11.9), and in the quarter mile (13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph versus 13.5 at 106.3).
Basically equivalent to the V1 in performance. Of course, if you can afford an 05-06 GTO, you should be able to afford a V1. I'd prefer the V1 for several reasons...though out of the box I suspect the GTO is capable of actually during burnouts without the rear hopping into a thousand pieces. So if you like that, the V1 needs some reinforcement. I've had zero issues with that but I also know I can't just dump the clutch and roast the tires. It has expensive tires, and will drift anyway, so it never really bothered me. And if you are actually trying to launch, a big burnout is quite slow.

They made about 4x the 04-06 GTOs compared to the 04-07 CTS-Vs so there is that factor (as far as finding one).
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Very oddly, Hagerty does not appear to have the V1!
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