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Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:16 am
by kevm14
Well powertrain is just one reason for retiring a car. So along with this list, we need primary reason for retiring. It is probably not engine. Possibly trans. Probably not even that (I.e. It would have been repaired). Which brings up another point: How many, how much and what kind of repairs were done to the vehicles in this list? I wouldn't make any assumptions.

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:18 am
by kevm14
And another question I wouldn't take for granted: Where does the data come from?

These questions aside I think this list is more relevant than some prediction.

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:40 pm
by bill25
How many were totaled in accidents? This has no bearing on longevity or reliability (unless there was a defect that caused the accident).

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:21 am
by kevm14
Right. You have to hope that it normalizes out across all the cars. You can't take a car in the junkyard for a front end impact with 180k and count it as 200k because "it would have made it."

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:24 am
by Adam
100% of the Fleetwoods I have owned made it to 200K while I owned it. 0% of the Tercels did (one never will).

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:29 am
by kevm14
I've run the CTS-V to 100k
Also the SRX
Ranger isn't there yet
Sold the Fleetwood before 100k
Camaro had more than 100k when I bought it and sold it before 200k
Caprice hit 200k then 300k

I don't remember when the Malibu hit 100k.

So the only vehicle I've run to 200k has also been run to 300k.

Re: Top 10 vehicles with over 200k

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:19 am
by kevm14
Some more data:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the ... ar-BBpZFMk

Original article: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a1 ... 000-miles/

They started with the same list that I started this thread with. About which, they said this:
Work trucks dominate the top of the list. "Manufacturers build trucks with these demands in mind and stake their reputations on how long their trucks will last. Longevity is even a major focus of their marketing campaigns," says iSeeCars.com CEO Phong Ly. "Also, owners who are dependent on their vehicle to get from one job site to the next are going to pay closer attention to their vehicles' regular maintenance or repairs because their livelihood depends on keeping their trucks in good operating condition." Notice anything missing from that list? Luxury cars and non-trucks. Only one car cracked the top ten, the Toyota Avalon. "While the Avalon doesn't carry the best-selling title of the Accord, it does have Toyota's long-standing reputation for reliability," says Ly.
Ok, so we wanted more data, right?

Next category:
Here are the top ten cars that make it to 200,000 miles:
Avalon
Accord
Odyssey
Taurus
Camry - tied for 5th
Civic - tied for 5th
Sienna - tied for 6th
Legacy - tied for 6th
Quest - tied for 7th
Impala - tied for 7th
Grand Caravan
Outback
Prius - tied for 10th
Forester - tied for 10th
Corolla - tied for 10th
As you can see, the list is dominated by Japanese models, with just three domestics-the Ford Taurus, the Chevy Impala, and the Dodge Grand Caravan.
More data: longest lasting luxury vehicles.
This only showed the top 5 for some reason.
Navigator
Escalade
MDX
Escalade ESV (this is not counted as Escalade??)
MB S-class - tied for 5th
MB M-class - tied for 5th

If the Escalade and ESV were added together, it would be #1, FWIW.
In other words, if you want a luxury car to last, it looks like SUVs may be your best bet. "Overall, the luxury cars had notably lower percentages of cars sold with over 200,000 miles, perhaps because these cars are often leased and the requirements of those contracts keep the miles down," says Ly. Also, luxury cars in general just see fewer miles on the road period- iSeeCars.com says luxury vehicles log 10 percent less mileage than non-luxury ones
After all this, I think the only legit takeaway is that trucks/SUVs are probably most likely to run to high miles. Most likely being the operative term. No one said anything about cost to get there, maintenance, who is driving the cars, etc. Which is why this whole thing has to be taken with a grain of salt. I think 300k would be more illuminating - I don't think 200k is a distinguishing factor today.