The case for the Camaro 2.0T

[kevm14]

The SS is really good. If you have $37-50k. The V6 1LE is even interesting, if you have low to mid $30k. What if you have less than $20k?

https://www.autonation.com/cars/1g1fa1rx7h0198139

And that case is, you can get a brand new 2017 Camaro 2.0T manual, yes in base 1LS trim, for $18,865 with a generous stack up of discounts; $16,865 if you currently own a Ford Mustang ($2k Conquest discount).

Quick, someone find me a better fun RWD car for less than $19k. I'll wait.

This is actually the equivalent of the base Mazda 3 that Bill bought in 09. Faced with a similar decision and price point, I think you'd be nuts to choose the 3 over this. 1LS 2.0T manual to daily, 1SS automatic as weekend car? Own all the Camaros?

[kevm14]

Here is the standard equipment on the 1LS:

The 2017 Camaro 1LS features:
2.0L 275hp turbocharged engine
18-inch aluminum wheels
Cloth power 8-way driver and power 6-way front passenger seats
Rear vision camera
6-speed manual transmission
Air conditioning, single-zone
Power windows with driver and passenger express up/down
Power door locks and Remote Keyless Entry
Power mirrors
Tire inflator kit
Floor mats
LED daytime running lamps
Full folding rear seat (coupe only)
Chevrolet MyLink†
OnStar Guidance Plan† (standard for the first six months, trial excludes Hands-Free Calling minutes), includes Automatic Crash Response and Turn-by-Turn Navigation
SiriusXM† Satellite Radio with a trial subscription of the All-Access Package for 12 months
Bluetooth® wireless technology† for select phones

Damn, not bad for a base model. Dual power seats. 18s. Rear camera (mandated I think). Power windows. Power locks. Power mirrors. Bluetooth. MyLink.

Here is the detailed version of the above standard features:

Mechanical
2.0L Turbo 4-cylinder SIDI engine with Variable Valve Timing (VVT)
275 hp @ 5600 rpm
295 lb-ft of torque @ 3000-4500 rpm
6-speed manual transmission
SS and ZL1® models include Active Rev Matching
Includes 3.27 rear axle ratio on LS and 2LT models
Includes 3.73 rear axle ratio on SS and ZL1 models
3.27 rear axle ratio Requires the 2.0L Turbo engine; or the available 3.6L V6 engine and 6-speed manual transmission.
Driver Selector Mode up to 4 modes available for various driving conditions - Snow/Ice, Tour, Sport and Track (SS and ZL1 models only)
Limited-slip rear differential
2LT Coupe models require available 6-speed manual transmission or V6 1LE Track Performance Package
LT Convertible models require the available 6-speed manual transmission
Battery rundown protection
Rear wheel drive
Sport suspension 4-wheel independent sport suspension.
Electric Power Steering Small, tight proportions and quick steering ratios contribute to a nimble, controlled feeling.
4-wheel antilock disc brakes
With antilock disc brakes at all 4 wheels, this impressive electronic braking system is designed to help reduce wheel lockup and help maintain steering control during hard braking on most slippery surfaces
Feature single-piston front brakes with super-corner rear brakes
Fueling system, capless
Dual-outlet stainless steel exhaust with bright tips

Interior
Chevrolet MyLink®1 Radio with 7" diagonal color touch-screen
AM/FM stereo with seek-and-scan and digital clock
Bluetooth®2 streaming audio for music and select phones
Features Android Auto™ and Apple CarPlay™3 capability for compatible phones
1 MyLink functionality varies by model. Full functionality requires compatible Bluetooth and smartphone, and USB connectivity for some devices.MyLink on Camaro® does not include CD player.
2 Go to www.my.chevrolet.com/learn to find out which phones are compatible with the vehicle.
3 Vehicle user interfaces are products of Apple and Google and their terms and privacy statements apply. Requires compatible smartphone and data plan rates apply. Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. Android Auto is a trademark of Google Inc.
6-speaker audio system Camaro® comes with a standard 6-speaker audio system.
Audio system feature, USB ports, 2 and auxiliary input jack
OnStar® 4G LTE and built-in Wi-Fi® hotspot1
Connect to the Internet at 4G LTE speeds
Includes OnStar Data Trial for 3 months or 3GB (whichever comes first)
1 Available 4G LTE Wi-Fi requires compatible mobile device, active OnStar service and data plan. Visit www.onstar.com for details and system limitations.
SiriusXM® Satellite Radio1
Welcome to the world of SiriusXM®.1

Enjoy your 12-month trial subscription to the All Access package with over 150 channels including commercial-free music, plus sports, exclusive talk, entertainment and news
Plus, listen on the app and online — it’s included with All Access, so you’ll hear the best SiriusXM has to offer, anywhere life takes you
1 If you decide to continue service after your trial, the subscription plan you choose will automatically renew thereafter and you will be charged according to your chosen payment method at then-current rates. Fees and taxes apply. To cancel you must call us at 1-866-635-2349. See our Customer Agreement for complete terms at www.siriusxm.com. All fees and programming subject to change. © 2015 Sirius XM Radio Inc. Sirius, XM and all related marks and logos are trademarks of Sirius XM Radio Inc. All rights reserved.
Bluetooth for phone
Antenna, integral rear window
Antenna, OnStar and SiriusXM Satellite Radio, fin-type (Black, except when (WRS) RS Package is ordered and changes to body-color.)
Seats, Cloth front Sport bucket (STD)
Seat adjuster, driver, 8-way power
6-way power-adjustable passenger seat Easy-to-reach controls move the seat fore or aft, raise or lower it, adjust the angle of its cushion and ease the seatback up or down.
Seat, rear, folding
Carpeted front floor mats These durable-pile front floor mats are designed for the interior of your Camaro®.
Dead pedal, driver
Steering wheel, leather-wrapped, flat-bottom
Steering column, manual rake and telescopic
Speedometer, miles/kilometers
Color-display Driver Information Center View key information, such as trip mileage and fuel consumption, as well as messages from the various vehicle systems, on this full-color, high-resolution display.
Compass display
Air conditioning, single-zone automatic climate control
Power outlet, 1 located on center console
Windows, power with driver and passenger Express-Down/Up
Door locks, power programmable with lockout protection
Keyless Open and Start includes 2 remote transmitters that enable automatic door unlock and open by touching door switch
Cruise control, electronic with set and resume speed, steering wheel mounted
Mirror, inside rearview manual day/night, frameless
Visors, driver and front passenger vanity mirrors, covered, non-illuminated
Trunk release, power
Defogger, rear-window, electric
Glovebox, lockable
Cup holders, 2 front
Lighting, front reading lamps
Leather-wrapped shift knob

Exterior
18" Silver-painted aluminum wheels
245/50R18, blackwall, all-season tires
Power-adjustable body-color outside mirrors
Wipers, front variable-speed, intermittent with washers

Safety
StabiliTrak, stability control system with brake assist includes traction control
Daytime Running Lamps, LED
Air bags, dual-stage frontal, thorax side-impact and knee, driver and front passenger, and head curtain side-impact includes Passenger Sensing System (Always use safety belts and child restraints. Children are safer when properly secured in a rear seat in the appropriate child restraint. See the Owner's Manual for more information.)
OnStar® Guidance Plan1 for 3 months Includes Automatic Crash Response, Stolen Vehicle Assistance, Roadside Assistance, Turn-by-Turn Navigation, Advanced Diagnostics and more (trial excludes Hands-Free Calling). 1 Visit www.onstar.com for coverage map, details and system limitations. Services may vary by model and conditions.
OnStar® Basic Plan1 for 5 years Includes select mobile app and Advanced Diagnostics features, including Dealer Maintenance Notification. 1 Basic Plan available for 5 years from the date of vehicle delivery, and is transferable. Does not include Emergency, Security or Navigation services.
Teen Driver mode
Activate customizable vehicle settings associated with your key fob to encourage safe driving behavior
When engaged, this feature is able to limits certain vehicle features, such as preventing certain safety systems from being turned off
An in-vehicle report gives you information on your teen's driving habits and helps you continue to coach your new driver
Rear Vision Camera1
When you shift into Reverse, an image appears in the color touch-screen display, giving you a view of the area behind your back bumper
Helps detect certain stationary objects behind the vehicle while traveling in Reverse at low speeds
1 Safety features are no substitute for the driver’s responsibility to operate the vehicle in a safe manner. The driver should remain attentive to traffic, surroundings and road conditions at all times. Read the vehicle’s owner’s manual for more important safety information.
Safety belts, 3-point, all seating positions includes front seat driver and front passenger safety belt pretensioners
LATCH system (Lower Anchors and Top tethers for CHildren), for child safety seats
Trunk emergency release handle

[bill25]

This is 3K more than the Mazda, because I am not a Mustang owner.
And yes, this would have been better.

if you currently own a Ford Mustang ($2k Conquest discount).

- That is hilarious by the way.

[kevm14]

I wonder if you can go buy some beater-ass 95 Mustang V6 for $400 and qualify.

[Bob]

I wonder if you can go buy some beater-ass 95 Mustang V6 for $400 and qualify.

Sometimes these conquest buyer things have some kind of restriction, like it has to be within the last 10 model years. I did not see this for the GM program.

[kevm14]

I say that if you are willing to go through that kind of hassle (and actually own a Mustang), then you have earned your $2k discount.