Focus RS

[kevm14]

ATS 2.0T, RWD, w/ manual trans, $17,800: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale ... 4462&Log=0

ATS 2.0T AWD, w/ auto, $16k!: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale ... 4462&Log=0

Damn, these are affordable (not to me of course).

[kevm14]

ATS 3.6L, AWD, Luxury trim, auto trans, $18,987: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale ... 3780&Log=0

Come on now. Somebody on this forum should be looking at these, no?

[Adam]

Come on now. Somebody on this forum should be looking at these, no?

Nope. Personally, if I wanted to spend $18K on something, it would be $9K on a PPV and another $9K on some turbo-LS contraption.

[Adam]

Come on now. Somebody on this forum should be looking at these, no?

Nope. Personally, if I wanted to spend $18K on something, it would be $9K on a PPV and another $9K on some turbo-LS contraption.

Actually, more like $9K on a turbo-LS and 6x $1500 cars.

[kevm14]

Yeah I hear you. Me too, really. Maybe it's just Bob.

[Bob]

I tried to rent an ATS last night at National for a $40 surcharge, but they wouldn't do it because it was a one way rental. Only thing they had left was a Town & Country - poor me. When I walked out to the lot, I noticed the ATS was a 2.0T.

[Fast_Ed]

Some cars look good and some don't. The Magnum looks good, but all cars don't look good as wagons. I guess it is a little frustrating that there are basically two types of performance cars: pretty big, V8 (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger/Charger) or "Hot Hatch". Where are the smaller sized RWD or AWD performance CARS? Just seems like a lack of variety.

Did they stop making the WRX, Lancer EVO, Subaru BRZ, and Miata? I truly haven't paid attention to new cars in many years.. When I realized that spending lots of money on a car is stupid and that new cars have no soul.

I suppose there should be an enthusiast buyer's guide for sub-$5000 cars somewhere... Maybe a thread here?

Though, $5k is a bit spendy for a car..

[Adam]

Don't forget the Scion FRS!

[Fast_Ed]

Damn, couldn't remember that letter combo.

[bill25]

I mean those are legitimate options, 3 of them are 2 seaters though which I understand is still cool, just not super practically for me. I thought the EVO was over. I could be wrong about that. Maybe there isn't a demand for a halfway decent "dad mobile". Mazda had the MazdaSpeed6. I guess there is probably an AWD V6 Fusion... Maybe I should invest on BWW tools/mechanics classes and just hot rod a 3 series. You can get those for 3K.